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Admin logs
- Large Empire Limits
Wayward
Son explains the idea of limiting the number of "large" empires each person
can own.
This
log dates from 31st January 2006
[31/01 - 22:13] * Now talking in #neveron_changes
[31/01 - 22:13] * Wayward_Son sets mode: +mt
[31/01 - 22:14] <Wayward_Son> Please PM me your question and I will take appropriate ones in order
[31/01 - 22:14] <Wayward_Son>
<Raptor|needs55tmoveparts> xso u can merge 2+ empires into 1 at cost listed on updates page?
[31/01 - 22:15] <Wayward_Son> no that is changing and i will update it ASAP. We will merge anything on your registered computer's IP into one empire for free so long as the resulting empire does not exceed level 10. The mergers will be judged by the figures we recorded yesterday
[31/01 - 22:15] <Wayward_Son> so you cant level down your empires and hope to squeeze them in
[31/01 - 22:15] <Wayward_Son> this also only affects level 7+ empires
[31/01 - 22:15] <Wayward_Son> so you cant merge 5 level 6's
[31/01 - 22:15] <Wayward_Son> or even 1 level 6 into anything.
[31/01 - 22:16] <Wayward_Son> i will update that on the page in a few moments
[31/01 - 22:16] <Wayward_Son>
<mattbuck> 1) Define a secondary login - does this mean a login to any empire of any level, or merely to a pilot login to a lvl7+
[31/01 - 22:16] <Wayward_Son>
<mattbuck> 2) What happens if you control say a lvl8 and a 6, but the 6 goes lvl7 through war gains temporarily?
[31/01 - 22:16] <Wayward_Son>
<mattbuck> would you be able to access it to delete something to reduce back to 6
[31/01 - 22:16] <Wayward_Son> 1. If you guys have been following the updates you would know that a secondary login can have access to an unlimited numberof empirs
[31/01 - 22:16] <Wayward_Son> you acan allow an unlimited number of logins into your empire
[31/01 - 22:16] <Wayward_Son> and set all their permissions
[31/01 - 22:17] <Wayward_Son> i suggest tath you all experiment iwth this feature right now
[31/01 - 22:17] <Wayward_Son> go to your logins page
[31/01 - 22:17] <Wayward_Son> you can create a new login from there
[31/01 - 22:17] <Wayward_Son> or type in the name of a secondary login
[31/01 - 22:17] <Wayward_Son> you will then be able to set permissions for that login and that player can log in anytime
[31/01 - 22:17] <Wayward_Son> to access a different empire all they need to do is unclaim all their people
[31/01 - 22:17] <Wayward_Son> andlog out
[31/01 - 22:18] <Wayward_Son> when they log back in they will get a list of all the empires they have access to
[31/01 - 22:18] <Wayward_Son> click and enter
[31/01 - 22:18] <Wayward_Son> easy as pie
[31/01 - 22:18] <Wayward_Son> 2. Yes you will be able to reduce yourself down to a smaller level
[31/01 - 22:18] <Wayward_Son>
<Michael_Klien> When will we be able to register our computers?
[31/01 - 22:19] <Wayward_Son> we hope to have this process debugged and up with plenty of help info by the end of next week
[31/01 - 22:19] <Wayward_Son> please just watch the updates for details
[31/01 - 22:19] <Wayward_Son>
<redneck> this is from a comp registration not an IP listing?
[31/01 - 22:19] <Wayward_Son> we will be looking at computers AND IPs
[31/01 - 22:20] <Wayward_Son> what strength we place on the IP has not yet been determined
[31/01 - 22:20] <Wayward_Son> but remember the spirit of this rule
[31/01 - 22:20] <Wayward_Son> we want people in an empire that they care about, in a faction they care about playing a style that they care about.
[31/01 - 22:20] <Wayward_Son>
<{WoB}Chetter_PcT> what happens if your comp is damaged or destroyed and you need to acsess your empire fast aka your under assault
[31/01 - 22:20] <Wayward_Son>
<{WoB}Chetter_PcT> and what happens if you lvl up
[31/01 - 22:20] <Wayward_Son>
<{WoB}Chetter_PcT> in a war lets say
[31/01 - 22:21] <Wayward_Son> You may register one empire on multiple computers, bu that computer can only have primary access to that one empire
[31/01 - 22:21] <Wayward_Son> so you just go to a diferent computer and register your empire to it
[31/01 - 22:21] <Wayward_Son> or you can use secondary logins to access it if need be
[31/01 - 22:22] <Wayward_Son> Again...i'm sure this will be a point of confusion but you can access your empire from an unlimited number of computers and the ones where access is limited (because you didnt register it or because that computer is registered to another empire) you will still be able to log in, just not have full control
[31/01 - 22:23] <Wayward_Son>
<ItCouldBeBunnies> i have giants that run two seperate factions. i can now only run one. Both are important. What am I to do? Can it be merged to a super faction?
[31/01 - 22:23] <Wayward_Son> as stated we will merge the empires
[31/01 - 22:23] <Wayward_Son> the faction you will have suss out on your own
[31/01 - 22:23] <Wayward_Son>
<Capreolus> will a player still be able to have what is basically unlimited access to an unlimited number of Empires through your new login system? And if so, does that still mean players can have one of their level 7+s held by another player basically for them, circumventing the rules?
[31/01 - 22:25] <Wayward_Son> There will still of course be ways to get around the spirit of the rules. If you give your buddy your level 10 and then access it from a secondary login that is fine, but you are giving up control of it. Use of an empire by secondary logins will not be able to exceed that of the primary login
[31/01 - 22:25] <Wayward_Son> Your buddy wold need to be playing in it just as much as you are
[31/01 - 22:25] <Wayward_Son> and if he decides he wants to delete it or war with it or whatever, thats his perogative
[31/01 - 22:26] <Wayward_Son>
<SDan> Why did you choose level 7 to be the limit? That is a bit too strict. Level 9 would be a much more agreeable cutoff.
[31/01 - 22:27] <Wayward_Son> Level 7's are big enough to be influencing the outcome of large events and they mark a point at which you are serisouly playing the game. We have considered modifying the rule a bit and we are still considering it, but to be able to have say 4 level 9's is stil far too much. If people need more stuff to keep them occupied in their empires then that is another issue, but there should be plenty to do in 1 level 9 to keep someone busy
[31/01 - 22:27] <Wayward_Son> again, if there is not then that is something that we can all address together
[31/01 - 22:28] <Wayward_Son> we are happy to make changes that keep people interested and playing, but it is simply too much to have 1 player able to have multiple powerful empires that they can utilize
[31/01 - 22:28] <Wayward_Son>
<HLC_afk> what if i have a 9, 7 and a 6, soon enough the 6 will be a 7
[31/01 - 22:28] <Wayward_Son> then you need to decide what you want to do with the 9 and the 7
[31/01 - 22:29] <Wayward_Son> you can give one away, merge them for free or delete one
[31/01 - 22:29] <Wayward_Son> it is your choice
[31/01 - 22:29] <Wayward_Son>
<casper`> what if i want to liquify a lower level with over 1000dp in mechs?
[31/01 - 22:30] <Wayward_Son> no. Our Dp liquidation offers are standard and you have until April 1st to take advantage of that offer
[31/01 - 22:30] <Wayward_Son>
<Bett_buying-DP> I think your new rule is great :D
[31/01 - 22:30] <Wayward_Son>
<Bett_buying-DP> But think of one issue. What happens with empire owners, which do have one high level empire and one level 6 LW empire
[31/01 - 22:30] <Wayward_Son>
<Bett_buying-DP> If you do a Level 6 LW, you will be Level 7 very fast
[31/01 - 22:30] <Wayward_Son>
<Bett_buying-DP> What happens if a level 6 LWer levels up for short time (eg. in a LW)
[31/01 - 22:30] <Wayward_Son> there will be a window where you can get your empire back down below the cap
[31/01 - 22:31] <Wayward_Son> its not like you hit level 7 and your empire will vanish or completely lock up
[31/01 - 22:31] <Wayward_Son>
<McDaniel> and what if you go on a holiday and want to get a friend to take care of it? he won't have all acces?
[31/01 - 22:31] <Wayward_Son> he can use a secondary login as stated
[31/01 - 22:32] <Wayward_Son>
<mattbuck> could you please mention this convo is being logged and will be placed on my website and the url put in public mail when it's over
[31/01 - 22:32] <Wayward_Son>
<mattbuck> Am i correct in understanding that someone with a single lvl7+ would still be able to have the primary login to 4 lower level empires?
[31/01 - 22:32] <Wayward_Son> yes mattbuck that is correct
[31/01 - 22:32] <Wayward_Son>
<Michael_Klien> Do we get to pick empire that keeps the name and empire ID
[31/01 - 22:32] <Wayward_Son> when you merge empires, yes you choose the empire that the others will be merged into
[31/01 - 22:33] <Wayward_Son> note that we will probably require the empire to be unfactioned or be a faction leader with this new unlimited merging thing
[31/01 - 22:33] <Wayward_Son>
<ItCouldBeBunnies> are you going to drop research costs, worker requirements and totally change the way classes work, as they are constructed using the concept of an average more than lvl 7
[31/01 - 22:33] <Wayward_Son> classes will be assessed as we continue to work on classes
[31/01 - 22:34] <Wayward_Son>
<KOOLAID[AMI]|AFK> Question, One of AMI's fundamental goals is to protect empires whose owners are away for combat or other reasons. If the owner isn't going to be logging in due to being gone is there going to be a way to apply for a way to negate the time limit?
[31/01 - 22:34] <Wayward_Son> secondary empires will be able to keep that empire going for a while
[31/01 - 22:35] <Wayward_Son> and we will also be adding a 'vacation' feature that requires a modest amount of DP per month for an empire to be mothballed. The empire will not be attackable and will gain nor lose nothing during the time it is mothballed. Income, research, skill gain/loss, everything will be frozen. Look more for that in future updates
[31/01 - 22:37] <Wayward_Son>
<Proud|pissed> i don`t wanna install activ X elements on my PC. its to damn risky!
[31/01 - 22:38] <Wayward_Son> we are committed to making this as safe as possible and if people have suggestions as to ways that we can do this more securely we are open to suggestions but the time has come where something needs to be done to register and control the number of large empires that a player is able to create and control.
[31/01 - 22:39] <Wayward_Son> Additionally, as stated in the update we will have been and will be continuing to build the game around the idea that large empires are run by one person and probably helped by several others
[31/01 - 22:40] <Wayward_Son> so using "but how will I have time with al 5 of my empires" won't be an excuse. If you want a large empire you need to be wiolling and ready to put in the time necessary to keep it up jsut as with many games out there that exist in perpetual worlds
[31/01 - 22:40] <Wayward_Son>
<Proud|pissed> ww, i play nev since mayn years. i build up a lvl 10,8,7,7,5 in that time. i play them ALL by my own. no managers. no logins (yes, i am a bit paranoid cause of login abuse). what should i do know? delete 3 of my emps? emps i played for years, and i like them!
[31/01 - 22:40] <Wayward_Son> you have the option to merge them for free or lower their levels to not break the rule
[31/01 - 22:40] <Wayward_Son> also remember as per the timeline you have several months to make these decissions
[31/01 - 22:41] <Wayward_Son>
<The_Doctor{Pirate_King}> WW, alot of the empires that will be getting merged are faction leaders of different factions; what do we do with that?
[31/01 - 22:41] <Wayward_Son> you will have the 50% reduction in faction costs to assist you through this transition
[31/01 - 22:42] <Wayward_Son> and the old faction will simply get a new faction leader
[31/01 - 22:42] <Wayward_Son> whoever the highest level in the empire is
[31/01 - 22:42] <Wayward_Son>
<Pimp> my concern is factions and how they will be really hosed with this, alot of us have built factions up for several years and this could tear them apart in a matter of hours
[31/01 - 22:42] <Wayward_Son>
<Pimp> esp with the new fwar changes in place this could create a ton of problems and issues
[31/01 - 22:43] <Wayward_Son> we understand your concerns which is why the timeline for this is so long (5+ months) and the terms we are willing to work with on mergers and liquidation and faction restructuring are so lenient. If there are other issues that arise, such as ones you already brought up and we addressed, Pimp, we are happy to discuss them
[31/01 - 22:43] <Wayward_Son> We want this to be a positive change that brins you all closer together, working with active players in active factions that are a lot more fun and interesting than many of the factions are now
[31/01 - 22:44] <Wayward_Son> i know that a lotof players feel like their faction mail is a hollow chamber into which words are thrown
[31/01 - 22:44] <Wayward_Son>
<GreenBeret> Also: a more thorough description of what exactly merging does to empires might be helpful. Research, mechs, rep, morale, etc
[31/01 - 22:44] <Wayward_Son> merging seamlessly combines two empires leaving 1 (whatever one you choose) as the only empire
[31/01 - 22:45] <Wayward_Son> it combines everything, both good and bad
[31/01 - 22:45] <Wayward_Son> all research and researchprogress
[31/01 - 22:45] <Wayward_Son> positive and negative morale
[31/01 - 22:45] <Wayward_Son> money and debt
[31/01 - 22:45] <Wayward_Son> pilots
[31/01 - 22:45] <Wayward_Son> units
[31/01 - 22:45] <Wayward_Son> land
[31/01 - 22:45] <Wayward_Son> everything
[31/01 - 22:46] <Wayward_Son> merged empires may not exceed level 13 in total size and we will NOT allow you to 'level down' empires to meet this requirement unless you are also willing to part with some Donation Points.
[31/01 - 22:46] <Wayward_Son>
<McDaniel> so if you have enough friend you can still attack someone with severl emps?
[31/01 - 22:48] <Wayward_Son> yes of course, that is part of the game. This is a game of diplomacy and alliances as well as war and tactics. The main problem is either that A. players aren't that good at the game for the level they are playing at and B. their facitons are inactive and unready to assist them. We are seeking to make improvements on both these fronts by condolidating player activity
[31/01 - 22:48] <Wayward_Son>
<ItCouldBeBunnies> are you going to drop research costs, worker requirements as they are constructed using the concept of an average more than lvl 7 to actually research and produce things. Having less producers will mean a monopoly on the vehicle markets again
[31/01 - 22:48] <Wayward_Son> ICBB these are already all the same players with these empires
[31/01 - 22:49] <Wayward_Son> if i have 5 producer empires and i combine them into 1 it reduces my market power
[31/01 - 22:49] <Wayward_Son> not increases it
[31/01 - 22:49] <Wayward_Son>
<Malachi{cult}> What will the level down window be if your empire goes to lev 7?
[31/01 - 22:50] <Wayward_Son> these kinds of details are forthcomign but it isnt something you should worry about. it will not be inconveniant
[31/01 - 22:50] <Wayward_Son>
<SDan> A second question: I know of a high-level empire that is being taken care of long-term for a player who is absent due to injuries. What can be done in this situation? Neither of the two people will be able to control the primary login.
[31/01 - 22:51] <Wayward_Son> there are several months before they need to panic and if this persons injuries keep them from using a computer for 5 months they probably arent coming back
[31/01 - 22:51] <Wayward_Son>
<StCmdr_Hopeless> what if i have 2 computers, can i contorl a lvl7 on each of them?
[31/01 - 22:52] <Wayward_Son> again, we will be looking at IP's as well and strategies like this will be scrutinized, though I can tell you that we are more concerned with players controlling multiple 10+'s than level 7's
[31/01 - 22:52] <Wayward_Son>
<{WoB}TJ_PctMar> quite a few people log in from multiple computers, I myself use 3 at home and at least 1 from work. How will these changes effect me? Will i still be able to log in and do everything from all those computers?
[31/01 - 22:53] <Wayward_Son> Again...i'm sure this will be a point of confusion but you can access your empire from an unlimited number of computers and the ones where access is limited (because you didnt register it or because that computer is registered to another empire) you will still be able to log in, just not have full control
[31/01 - 22:53] <Wayward_Son>
<Proud|pissed> merge for free? the updates said its only cheaper
[31/01 - 22:54] <Wayward_Son> no that is changing and i will update it ASAP. We will merge anything on your registered computer's IP into one empire for free so long as the resulting empire does not exceed level 13. The mergers will be judged by the figures we recorded yesterday so you can NOT level down empires to squeeze in under level 14 nor level up empires to level to get the free merger.
[31/01 - 22:55] <Wayward_Son>
<{WoB}Chetter_PcT> I just sent my help tickets with merger requests
[31/01 - 22:55] <Wayward_Son>
<{WoB}Chetter_PcT> you guys have done me a solid
[31/01 - 22:55] <Wayward_Son>
<{WoB}Chetter_PcT> Im very happy
[31/01 - 22:55] <Wayward_Son>
<Hannibal{JSDC}> <Wayward_Son> You register your computer and we will merge anything on it that is level 7+ into one empire
[31/01 - 22:55] <Wayward_Son>
<Hannibal{JSDC}> does this mean a lvl 11 and 10 on the same computer are merged for free?
[31/01 - 22:55] <Wayward_Son> this is correct, for a limited time as we transition
[31/01 - 22:55] <Wayward_Son>
<lordasb> and will you have problems with people behind firewalls and proxies with this new control ?
[31/01 - 22:55] <Wayward_Son> please read the updates
[31/01 - 22:56] <Wayward_Son> access will be restricted, not prohibited
[31/01 - 22:56] <Wayward_Son>
<PilotBridges> how will you balance the amount of DP toys in low level empires since everyone will be spending money on their little empires..
[31/01 - 22:56] <Wayward_Son> thatis what OMT is there for
[31/01 - 22:58] <Wayward_Son>
<Pimp> i would say during this 5 month time that maybe all the stuff form fwars should be put on hold to allow people time to adjust to the vastly changed landscape
[31/01 - 22:59] <Wayward_Son> thats something we will consider but I can't say we will change anything with fwar at the moent
[31/01 - 22:59] <Wayward_Son> moment*
[31/01 - 22:59] <Wayward_Son> im ignoring repeat questions
[31/01 - 22:59] <Wayward_Son> so if your question isnt answered directly please scroll up
[31/01 - 23:00] <Wayward_Son> ask someone else
[31/01 - 23:00] <Wayward_Son> or read the logs when we are done
[31/01 - 23:00] <Wayward_Son>
<Capreolus> referencing KOOLAID's question, and others, would secondary logins count when determining whether an empire has been inactive for a month (precipitating its deletion), and if so, wouldn't that render pointless the "vacation mode" idea, as you could just leave your empire in the care of others with secondary logins while you're away?
[31/01 - 23:00] <Wayward_Son> As stated secondary login use wont be able to exceed primary use
[31/01 - 23:01] <Wayward_Son> if you leave town and computer acces
[31/01 - 23:11] <Wayward_Son>
<Victor_Steiner|AFK> What about people with multiple empires, your trying to decrease the # of larger empires by telling us we can't run a lvl 10 singlehandedly efficiently(which I disagree with), but if mergers are allowed that will just increase the number of larger(lvl 12 and 13) empires in game, which you say can't be run alone anyways
[31/01 - 23:11] <Wayward_Son> great question
[31/01 - 23:12] <Wayward_Son> I'm not teling you what you can or cant run i'm telling you what we expect the average person can handle and that we DONT expect large empires can be handled alone
[31/01 - 23:12] <Wayward_Son> a sucessful large empire will grown
[31/01 - 23:12] <Wayward_Son> an unsuccesful one will shrink
[31/01 - 23:12] <Wayward_Son> so if you are running a levl 12 by yourself
[31/01 - 23:12] <Wayward_Son> and your faction isnt active
[31/01 - 23:12] <Wayward_Son> and your defenses arent good
[31/01 - 23:12] <Wayward_Son> and you have nobody to pilot
[31/01 - 23:13] <Wayward_Son> we expect you to lose and lose hard and you should expect that too
[31/01 - 23:13] <Wayward_Son> that is our point. we have been and will continue to design the game around the idea that a level 10+ empire is in an active faction and has people actively moving it forward
[31/01 - 23:13] <Wayward_Son> if you want to merge to be level 13 that is fine
[31/01 - 23:14] <Wayward_Son> but that will not be a smart decision for most players
[31/01 - 23:14] <Wayward_Son> and unless you really know what you are doing I would advise against it
[31/01 - 23:14] <Wayward_Son> because if you aren't getting support you will steadily shring because people ARE going to be attacking you sooner or later
[31/01 - 23:15] <Wayward_Son> and you aren't going to win any of those wars until you are of a size you can actually manage
[31/01 - 23:15] <Wayward_Son>
<GreenBeret> This is my current understanding: all empires who were lvl 7+ as of yesterday can be merged for free as long as the total BV+pop as of yesterday does not exceed lvl 13
[31/01 - 23:15] <Wayward_Son>
<GreenBeret> if you wish, you can alter your bv+pop total and pay some DP in addition to merge them
[31/01 - 23:15] <Wayward_Son> that is correct
[31/01 - 23:15] <Wayward_Son>
<CountWolf[AFK]> Wayward Why was level 7 chosen as the cutoff? A level 7-8 is fairly easy to manage. it is level 9 that really starts to get unmanageable in terms up upkeep and such. would you consider increasing the rule to only 1 level 9+ empire?
[31/01 - 23:16] <Wayward_Son> again, an alteration of this rule is being considered but it is only in consideration. Remember folks we left a LOT of time for these changes to go through so we can handle all this stuff
[31/01 - 23:16] <Wayward_Son> so please dont rush to any decisions
[31/01 - 23:18] <Wayward_Son>
<Moraran[AMI]> What if I live on a college campus and the IP's are all close? How will you be able to tell the differance between me and my friends and someone whos using several computers for just themselves?
[31/01 - 23:18] <Wayward_Son> unfortunately some of your access will probably end up beign restricted. Shared computers will be an issue for empires level 7+ unless you are the one who registered their empire. Luckily with laptops and wifi access most places most players will be able to work around this easily
[31/01 - 23:19] <Wayward_Son> but this will create some problems for some players
[31/01 - 23:19] <Wayward_Son> and we are sorry for that, but we feell it is a necessary sacrifice that needs to be made for the benefit of the game
[31/01 - 23:19] <Wayward_Son> we don't like the idea of restricting any players from being able to access the game
[31/01 - 23:19] <Wayward_Son>
<Proud|pissed> can i only megre 3 of my 5 empires in one new bigger emp?
[31/01 - 23:20] <Wayward_Son> you may merge up to 4 into your 5th
[31/01 - 23:20] <Wayward_Son> but they have to be level 7+ as of yesterday
[31/01 - 23:20] <Wayward_Son> and the resulting empire may not exceed level 13
[31/01 - 23:20] <Wayward_Son>
<XIBIOUS> is this registering manditory
[31/01 - 23:21] <Wayward_Son> to have unrestrited access to a level 7+ empire it will be yes
[31/01 - 23:21] <Wayward_Son> you can still play level 0-6 withtout registering and you can still access empires level 7+ in a limited fashion without registering
[31/01 - 23:22] <Wayward_Son> guys again: you can register your empires from an UNLIMITED NUMBER OF COMPUTERS
[31/01 - 23:22] <Wayward_Son> but only ONE empire may be registered on EACH
[31/01 - 23:22] <Wayward_Son> i have 3 computers personally
[31/01 - 23:22] <Wayward_Son> and one level 7
[31/01 - 23:23] <Wayward_Son> so i will register each of the computers to that level 7 i have unlimited access
[31/01 - 23:23] <Wayward_Son> if i go to visit my parents
[31/01 - 23:23] <Wayward_Son> i will just register their computer to my empire
[31/01 - 23:23] <Wayward_Son> now if randy comes over and wants to play in his level 9 at my house
[31/01 - 23:23] <Wayward_Son> his access will be restricted
[31/01 - 23:23] <Wayward_Son> cause my comp is already registered to my empire
[31/01 - 23:24] <Wayward_Son> A lot of questions about mergers and when they will take place
[31/01 - 23:24] <Wayward_Son> I will probably do the mergers every friday or something like that
[31/01 - 23:24] <Wayward_Son> so that people have the weekends to restrcture
[31/01 - 23:24] <Wayward_Son> or i can do them mondays if people want the week to restructure and the weekends to war
[31/01 - 23:24] <Wayward_Son> whatever it seems like the consensus is
[31/01 - 23:24] <Wayward_Son> ill just sit down and hamer them out
[31/01 - 23:25] <Wayward_Son> but you WILL need to register your comp before I merge them
[31/01 - 23:25] <Wayward_Son> so we will have to get that process going first
[31/01 - 23:25] <Wayward_Son>
<Dark_Elf> 1 7+ is NOT reasonable
[31/01 - 23:25] <Wayward_Son>
<Dark_Elf> NEV SURVIVES OFF THE LARGER EMPIRES
[31/01 - 23:26] <Wayward_Son> so what happened in the 'good old days' you guys always talk about when Mad Man was a small level 10 that you all said could destroy every empire in the game if he wanted?
[31/01 - 23:26] <Wayward_Son> You dont survive off large empires they feed you like a drug dealer with anabolic steroids
[31/01 - 23:27] <Wayward_Son> the game worked fine when everyeone was under level 10 and will work fine when all these inactive empires are consolidated into active factinos
[31/01 - 23:27] <Wayward_Son> it will work better
[31/01 - 23:27] <Wayward_Son>
<PilotBridges> If i sell my empire thats level 8 thats registered, and i buy a level 10, how do i unregister the level 8 on my computer and put the level 10 on.
[31/01 - 23:28] <Wayward_Son> there will be process to switch them if you so choose, but it will be time restricted
[31/01 - 23:28] <Wayward_Son>
<Gunner_New_Rule_Blows> So, will dueling stable units be merged as they don't affect bv, all unassigned soldiers, can all units be unlanced automatically so we can restructure after our merges without ridiculous skillup penalties
[31/01 - 23:29] <Wayward_Son> all numbes are being used from what I recorded yesterday
[31/01 - 23:29] <Wayward_Son> so stabling mechs to drop your empire level wont work
[31/01 - 23:29] <Wayward_Son> We won't be unlancing or altering anyones empire beyond the free merger, which is a pretty huge thing
[31/01 - 23:30] <Wayward_Son> mechs that are already stabled are part of the empire and are switched over like any other unit
[31/01 - 23:30] <Wayward_Son> Guys mergers are seamless, anything you have in one empire apeears in the new one
[31/01 - 23:31] <Wayward_Son>
<Pimp> i honestly think a time period would be nice that would allow a total rebuilding of factions, with new faction limits in place to reflect the new changed policy on empire numbers, as the current empire faction limits are probly to confining with the new influx of higher level empires in game
[31/01 - 23:32] <Wayward_Son> the faction numbers were made when your empires were a lot smaller. Taking on the task of having a large empire is a lot of work and a lot of responsibilty. It also comes with a lot of power. Those are decisions that you all need to make as players. If you want to play at that level then you are welcome to it.
[31/01 - 23:32] <Wayward_Son> but this doesnt change our thinking on faction sizes
[31/01 - 23:32] <Wayward_Son> alliances have been on the back burner for a while but are being pushed forward
[31/01 - 23:33] <Wayward_Son>
<redneck> would we be able to send a ticket to change the registration if a new computer is purchased?
[31/01 - 23:33] <Wayward_Son> registration is something you easily do when you log in
[31/01 - 23:33] <Wayward_Son> you jsut allow an activex control to be installed
[31/01 - 23:33] <Wayward_Son> thats it
[31/01 - 23:34] <Wayward_Son> but again, I can see I will be repeating myself on this point a zillion time, you can register your empire on an UNLIMITED NUMBER OF COMPUTERS
[31/01 - 23:34] <Wayward_Son> its just one empire per computer
[31/01 - 23:34] <Wayward_Son>
<Accipiter> what is the benefit of empire liquidations when it's likely you could reap more wealth from picking apart the empire yourself
[31/01 - 23:34] <Wayward_Son> then you are welcome to do that. We are just giving peopel options
[31/01 - 23:35] <Wayward_Son> again guys im not answering repeat questions
[31/01 - 23:35] <Wayward_Son> well most of them
[31/01 - 23:36] <Wayward_Son> again folks the updates have been changed to reflect the new merger option
[31/01 - 23:36] <Wayward_Son> so please read it
[31/01 - 23:36] <Wayward_Son> im not answering any more merger questions
[31/01 - 23:38] <Wayward_Son>
<Dag> If you have two player leading an empire, can both register their computer to run it with full access ?
[31/01 - 23:38] <Wayward_Son> yes
[31/01 - 23:41] <Wayward_Son> ok well that is all the questions
[31/01 - 23:41] <Wayward_Son> that werent repeats
[31/01 - 23:41] <Wayward_Son> I think that handles everything for now
[31/01 - 23:41] <Wayward_Son> Mattbuck will be posting the chat log
[31/01 - 23:42] <Wayward_Son> everyone is pming me right now is asking a repeat question
[31/01 - 23:42] <Wayward_Son> so please read the logs
[31/01 - 23:42] <Wayward_Son> or ask someone else

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