<Alex[FUSMC]> hey
<Alex[FUSMC]> i want you to think of the guys who go out on tours of duty
<Alex[FUSMC]> what, they get to work and work and work to get their empire good, go out to defend you and their empire falls to shit?
<Alex[FUSMC]> your a jerk
<Alexander> <Alexander> please relay this message to him
<Alexander> <Alexander> if he wants to do what he is setting out to do. He needs to set the degredation program like the inactivity is set. It only clicks in after a certain anmount of time not logged in
<NoobieDoobieDoo_afk> you got banned, and will remain banned, for your 'tag' until i am ready to remove it, which will be based on your actions. Slash should have pasted you back my reply to your idea, since he is pasting the comments of a banned player into chat
<Alex[FUSMC]> no he didnt
<Alex[FUSMC]> i had asked him to post that in hopes you would get back to me
<Alex[FUSMC]> if you are willing tyo talk, i will drop the tag
<NoobieDoobieDoo_afk> well im not going to discuss anything with you atm
<NoobieDoobieDoo_afk> im always willing to talk
<Alex> listen
<Alex> i do nderstand where you were coming from
<Alex> it should open your eyes
<Alex> if it doesnt, you need to ask yourself just how closesly you are listening
<NoobieDoobieDoo_afk> it opened my eyes alright...
<NoobieDoobieDoo_afk> in a way that ends badly for those people
<Alex> easy man
<NoobieDoobieDoo_afk> im listending
<NoobieDoobieDoo_afk> very closely
<NoobieDoobieDoo_afk> trust me
<NoobieDoobieDoo_afk> and im counting to 10
<Alex> dont go burning the hill you stand on
<NoobieDoobieDoo_afk> and biting my tongue a lot too
<NoobieDoobieDoo_afk> far more than I EVER have in my entire life
<NoobieDoobieDoo_afk> and people need to remember i do have my limits
<Alex> as do we all. as do our wallets
<Alex> good night Shadowx> i do
<Alex> what you tried to implement has promise
<NoobieDoobieDoo_afk> [03:53] <NoobieDoobieDoo_afk> well im not going to discuss anything with you atm
<NoobieDoobieDoo_afk> [03:53] <NoobieDoobieDoo_afk> im always willing to talk
<NoobieDoobieDoo_afk> [03:54] <NoobieDoobieDoo_afk> ad trying to force me to talk, so you wont insult me, is not the way it works
<NoobieDoobieDoo_afk> I have to get some sleep now
<Alex> your not willing to talk?
<NoobieDoobieDoo_afk> i will make myself avail tomm after 7 if you would like to discuss things
<NoobieDoobieDoo_afk> not right now, no im cant
<NoobieDoobieDoo_afk> i have to pick randy up in 4 h and work on nev all day
<Alex> okay, but when you go to sleep
<NoobieDoobieDoo_afk> i need to get some sleep
<Alex> you need to think about wether or not you weant to lose the poeple who have jobs
<Alex> the people who can only play now and again
<NoobieDoobieDoo_afk> the damage was not intended to cripple people with lives
<Alex> do you wanna punish them? they are who pay the most
<NoobieDoobieDoo_afk> we probably need to tweak some settings
<NoobieDoobieDoo_afk> but no one let us get that far
<Alex> i suggest a degredation on buildings 75cf and below
<Alex> really get rid of tents
<NoobieDoobieDoo_afk> the idea is that the average player can log in once or twice a week, fix everything in like :30m max and move on
<NoobieDoobieDoo_afk> if you dont / cant do that, your empire 'suffers'
<Alex> but that sometimes means half of their available time
<Alex> you cant suffer the people with no time
<Alex> you must suffer those with no strategy
<Alex> make those who build worthless cities to suffer
<Alex> make it a requirement to build 150 cf
<Alex> make 150 cf undegradable
<Alex> that will work
<Alex> no 150 cf city can hide
<NoobieDoobieDoo_afk> [03:57] <Alex> you cant suffer the people with no time << the point here is that if you dont have the time to run a L12, then maybe you shouldnt try to keep limping it along just because it was a L12 at one point. if you cant maintain a L12, then maybe consider a L10, or even a L8
<NoobieDoobieDoo_afk> any level that you CAN maintain
<NoobieDoobieDoo_afk> building larger / few cities also means that you have less 'repairs' to do
<NoobieDoobieDoo_afk> where a tented empire has much more work to do
<Alex> but in all honesty, it would take a crew to keep even a lvl 11 gong
<NoobieDoobieDoo_afk> [03:58] <Alex> make 150 cf undegradable <<< the problem with that is higher level empires...they just grow and grow and grow and bog down the DB
<Alex> you are trying to get rid of big empires
<Alex> would yopu prefer to see less lvl 13 empires and more lvl 10 and 11?
<NoobieDoobieDoo_afk> yes larger empires are a major burden on the servers...so if a player wants the option to have one, they got it, but im not going to make it wasy to keep maintain one because the players demand it so...one L12 takes equal toll on the game as 1,000 L3s. Id rather have 1000 L3s in the game, all active, fighting / politics/ wahtever...than a few players holding a dozen larger empires for the same
<NoobieDoobieDoo_afk> 'resource' load
<NoobieDoobieDoo_afk> there are only like 44 L10+ empires [maybe that was L11+] but they are using like 90% of the resources when they are used...and thats of like 11,000 empires total i think it was? of course that 11k includes all the inactives yet to be deleted
<Alex> you alienated the crowd tongiht
<NoobieDoobieDoo_afk> L10 we can manage, until we get 100 L10s or 1000 L10s then its more of the same issue. so things need to die at some point, and things growing need to be kept in check
<Alex> but you need to be able to check the fully actives the same as the half actives
<Alex> some have betetr straetgy
<Alex> cant make their time online a decider
<NoobieDoobieDoo_afk> if we have 1000 legit players all running L10s and a % of them are donors, as well as the 1000s of other empires/ players have a % donating, then we can move neveron onto bigger and better things like 3D graphics in battle and so on
<Alex> 3D graphics?
<NoobieDoobieDoo_afk> yeah
<Alex> tats where your going?
<NoobieDoobieDoo_afk> eventually i think it would be a nice feature
<NoobieDoobieDoo_afk> but its a long way from present
<NoobieDoobieDoo_afk> i posted a link
<Alex> well what about really dealing with the resource market of really dealing with soi?
<NoobieDoobieDoo_afk> google tarrasan on youtube
<NoobieDoobieDoo_afk> i think thats his name
<NoobieDoobieDoo_afk> he made some CBT type demos using 'unity' engine
<NoobieDoobieDoo_afk> again, lots need to be sorted before we get there, those are just 2 items of dozens that need tweaking
<Alex> agreed
<Alex> do you think we could start a proper forum to decide what is first?
<Alex> this is our game more than yours
<NoobieDoobieDoo_afk> yeah i want a forum up, but keep neveron alive the last 12 months hasnt allowed much time to address that
<Alex> but then you made this HUGE move without so much of a word
<NoobieDoobieDoo_afk> i really got to go get some sleep, been a long day and tomorrows anther long one
<Alex> keep us in mind man, thats all we ask
<Alex> we are here, we deal with everything, and we will notice
<NoobieDoobieDoo_afk> i always do, despite what people are trying to say otherwise
<Alex> then please
<Alex> please
<Alex> lets make it more public next time
<NoobieDoobieDoo_afk> cause look at it this way, i could just ignore everyone, not bother to respond, and just go dump money in advertising that would draw in random new players...im trying to build a better game with its current players by choice
<NoobieDoobieDoo_afk> but days like today
<Alex> true, but not for one second should yu think we are replaceable
<Alex> not for one damn second
<NoobieDoobieDoo_afk> with FUCK YOU SHADOWMASTER blasting across my screen all day...does NOT make me want to deal with any onf you
<NoobieDoobieDoo_afk> and those lines where crossed several hours ago by many